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“Ahead of a new bipolar world”: how relations between Russia and the West will be built after Putin’s keynote speech

After the signing of the document on joining the DPR, LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, political life will change.

After the signing of the document on joining the DPR, LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, political life will change.

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– Can Putin’s speech at the ceremony of signing the treaty on the entry of four regions into Russia be called the second Munich speech?

– It’s raising the stakes. Many things are called by their proper names. Named the purpose of the West, which they tried to hide, although it has always been quite obvious. Putin used to talk about containment, now he talks about destroying Russia. In the Western picture of the future, there is not just a strong Russia – there is no Russia at all. There are several Slavic or proto-Slavic states, but not Russia.

– For 30 years it has been talked about a big Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok, we went there, pulled gas pipelines. Now everything has changed drastically. What’s ahead?

– Ahead of the “new bipolar”. A new global confrontation between two emerging systems. One is pro-American, which, according to their plan, should include North and South America and Europe. And the second, as we saw at the summit of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, is a kind of Eurasian project, which includes China, Iran, India, Russia and the countries of the Asian region. When the struggle of these two worlds unfolds, there will be some kind of repetition of the confrontation between the Soviet Union and the United States. Then the struggle was for Africa and the Middle East. These territories will again become the arena of struggle.

– During these years, the thesis settled down: there should not be big wars, the USSR collapsed, they finished with the communist ideology, we are no different from them, we have capitalism, a world division of labor. Where did the strategic break take place today?

– Fault cultural and civilizational. The fact that we abandoned ideology at one time is our fault, and this is how we need it. Because the state ideology does not grow out of some external attitudes, but out of the cultural aspirations of the people who created this country and this state. From those moral foundations and those goals that this society sets for itself. Life refutes this attitude that we are a de-ideologized state. No, the ideology is not dead. Because the Russian people did not die, the Russian spirit did not die, the Russian perception of reality and the world did not die. Dostoevsky is in us, whom they want to ban. Therefore, the war.

– But the whole system is still pro-Western.

– And that’s a problem.

– And the administrators of the system are pro-Western. It is strange to expect from them that today they will go in the opposite direction.

– Yes, it’s naive. I just missed this in the President’s speech. The speech is strong, but you noted an important point: for 30 years, all the structures, institutions and people have been building a model for Russia to grow into the global market that has declared war on us today. If today we have the task of technological and economic sovereignization, then, probably, other people and other models should be implemented. I lacked, for example, a statement about the creation of some kind of State Committee for Defense and Management.

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